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Hello everyone,

It takes me a while to finish this but finally I `m glad that I have finished it
I did not really "blow up" the dice but it`s actually a self made jumbo version of the famous Tenyo classic " T-72 - Flash Dice". Comparing to the normal FD, it is about 8 times more bigger than the normal one. So I really "blew it up" The idea started when I bought my FD few weeks ago and I found jumbo dice in a magic shop by coincidence. I think it would be great to make a jumbo FD in order to perform it stand up in front of a bigger crowd. The normal FD is suitable only for close up (for 2 or max 3 people). The other inspiration came also when I see the late Paul Daniels performed the stage version of Tenyo "Dragon Altar"

If you see the design, you would probably surprise how can I made that in wood. It`s not Unfortunately I`m not a woodworker like our Simon or Martin but luckily I have a little bit experience working with hard cardboard, how to construct it, cut, paste, etc. The surface is actually covered by sticker with wood design in order to "steal" the elegant look. Yes it is tricky ! The inner construction is exactly the same as Tenyo FD, the only difference is : I glued the inner part with the black velvet, so the spec. could not really see the inner construction of the lid and it will reduce the voice while we shake box with all dice in it.

Beside the basic FD routine, I think there will be many more possible routines can be developed with this jumbo FD, for example : mentalism routine with numbers, maybe connection with book test ? (I`m still thinking about it), and many other ideas. Glad if you can share some ideas too

Well, this just an idea sharing to all of us who loves to perform or maybe love to make your own magic props. Hope you like it and have a great Sunday everyone!

Cheers,
Victor

Very nicely done! It does look like wood and has a very elegant look! Great job!

Fantastic job vic!! You're a real card-shark

Victor, what a fantastic idea! And what a beautiful box! And then the dice, never seen these before! They are great!

And yes, many routines are possible...

That reminds me, I have large wooden dice but never knew what to do with them ... Now I know!

Thanks for the compliments gents. I`m happy to share this

Rob, I`m convinced you will succeed make one for your own. I started to measure the jumbo die and adjust the dimensions for the box. I compare all scales with the Tenyo FD. I started with the base of the box and continue with the lid. Wish you a very good luck and fun !

Absolutely beautifull Victor!

Wow Victor that is amazing craftsmanship. What a great idea getting those huge dice then make a box for Jumbo Flash Dice. Lining the box quieting the noise is execellnt. The woodgrain contact paper looks really good. You could have posted and not say it wasn't wood for a while nobody would a guessed it wasn't. Very nice job

David, Richard. Thanks for the compliments.

I used the same material to create my own props like the Tommy Wonder`s Card Rubix (Box) & Ringbox ( see : viewtopic.php?f=34&t=680&p=6234&hilit=t ... nder#p6234), John Kennedy`s Mystery Box, Vanishing Deck, my own version of Magic Wagon`s magic painting, etc.
Comparing to wood, it`s not the material to compare with. But still be able the "wow" impression at the 1st look and it`s also quite durable. Maybe someday I have an opportunity to become woodworker Wish me luck!

I'm sure you'd be great, you've got a fine eye for detail and accuracy, go on vic, give it a go!

SimonC wrote:I'm sure you'd be great, you've got a fine eye for detail and accuracy, go on vic, give it a go!

Thanks for the great motivation Simon. That means a lot to me
Talking about eyes, I really need to take care of them. On this age, I started with 1+ glasses already. So I`m becoming "grandpa" already Hope it will not become worst.

I believe you won't have to worry too much about your eyes Victor, +1 is not very alarming

I have the advantage that I have -2, which means that when I am busy making something, I have to put off my glasses to see things better from a near distance. The only disadvantage is that my back is not very happy with that. And I can read better without glasses.

That aside, it is very rewarding to make or remake items yourself. You understand better how it works, and it gives much satisfaction. I am also a cardboard man, by lack of a workplace, so I"m also happy to see your creations! Great that you also once made Tommy Wonder's Rubik's Card. I was lazy and bought the Indomagicland version

Di-licious Victor.
Well done!

Thanks Bob
Rob....thanks for sharing. Seems that we need to be more consider about ergonomics at workplace. That helps a lot to increase our productivity

Cool Project Victor

JohnM wrote:Cool Project Victor

Thanks John

Looks beautiful!!

Roberto B. wrote:Looks beautiful!!

Thank you Roberto

Very nice, Victor! Great job on this jumbo version!

I've recently bought a version of this trick myself, but I just can't get it to work properly. It is clearly not a genuine Tenyo, and I am unsure why I can't get it to work reliably. And I have tried. The dice in mine are quite small, and they look extremely cheap, with a somewhat rough surface. The box only holds 5 dice too.

So what I will try to do is to use some standard 16 mm dice, and then 3D-print my own box. However, since my knockoff version is so bad, I don't want to get the dimensions from that, so if anyone could provide the measurements of a genuine Tenyo version, it would be easier for me to scale my own box properly.

What I need are the dimensions of the dice, and also the inner dimensions of the box with the lid on. Are there any special features inside the lid, or is the cross section (with the lid on), just a plain rectangular shape?

Please allow me to point out that for a mere $15 including shipping, you could get a brand new genuine Tenyo Flash Dice.

Why you would want to go through the trouble of making one is beyond me.

Hi ØyvindK, many thanks for your compliment

I can help you with the measurement (although I lost my note already ), but I think Steve`s suggestion is the best option. The original Tenyo Flash Dice is still easily available and not that expensive. If you get the original one in hand, you can have a good feel and a good starting point to develop further. I used also the same model of Tenyo Flash Dice to construct the jumbo one. Yes the inner construction is very simple. But I measure it from the Jumbo dice I got for the scale of jumbo dice box. For example : small dice : jumbo dice = 10 mm : 30 mm, means that I need to build the box 3 times bigger for the jumbo one, simple as that

Steve, I am fully aware that the original is still available, and that it's cheap. This has nothing to do with money, it's just that I much prefer to make my own stuff, and also that I want a box with standard 16 mm dice.

Victor, you don't have to search for your notes or take new measurements. I've made a working prototype now, but it seems to be a bit finicky to get to work reliably. It requires the shake to be quite soft, and it's too easy to have it fail by shaking too hard.

So I'll just prototype some more, and see if I can come up with a design that is more reliable. Just one question: Is it easy to always get the deired result with the original? Even if shaking hard?