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Post by Per-Aage » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:52 am

Hello

I have got my self a great Magic domene name (regarding the Scandinavian countries - http://www.123tryllebutikken.no and 123tryllebutikken.com (in English it would be: http://www.magicshop.no and com)

I will try to start a little Magic webshop selling to the Scandinavian countriies ( in Norway we only have one small shop/webshop-egelo)

To beginn With i want to sell the best classic triks for beginners of any age !

Since i have 123 in ny domene: http://www.123tryllebutikken.no, i thougt it would be a great marketing gimmick to have at least 123 great tricks in every categories (if possible:))

So, i need Your help to find 123 great classic and New tricks for beginners of any age !

I have started on a list, but gone blind :)

silk in glass
scotch and soda coins
steel ball and tube
brainwave deck
change bag
Magic pan
drawer Box
die Box
card Box
spiked coin
coin case
Three card monte
water suspension
treasure Box
bill tube
penetro penny
crazy cube
penetration frame
burglar ball
soft coins
proffesors nightmare
color changing silk
svengali deck
cups and balls
thump tip
linking rings
chop cup
floating lightbulb
cut and restore rope
ball and vase
color vision
traffic light
cubio
coloring bok
chinese sticks
zig zag card
dream Queen
Wonder Blocks
Magic tube
Three Shell game

Please help me to find the best tricks for beginners of any age ! :)

Tips about great wholesalers are wanted !

Thanks, you will all be rewarded when i am up and going :)
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Post by SimonC » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:34 pm

how cool! good luck with getting started.
are there any paddle effects on the list? there's a really strong king prediction effect. you have four kings in a small packet and state that you know which one your spectator will choose. whichever one they say is face down among the other face up 3 AND is a different colour back. simple but I never leave the house without it. something like the tenyo scale trick with the cats (thanks john b for introducing me to that little beauty) think-a-drink (obviously ;))
dynamic coins
brass penetration block
there's a good seller on eBay called cybercraig36 he has some great classics, and a lot from uday.
pen thru bill
lubors lens
vanishing card case
ultracinese (unscrew a nut and bolt with you mind!)
and don't forget your thumb tips!
I'll stop now ;)
exciting stuff :)
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Post by kellebotond » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:26 pm

You should try these wholesalers:

www.difattamagic.com
www.murphysmagic.com
www.funinc.com

They all have great stuff for beginners.
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Post by JohnM » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:01 pm

I alphabetized and numbered the list in Excel to make it easier to see what you have and what is missing.

1 ball and vase
2 bill tube
3 brainwave deck
4 burglar ball
5 card Box
6 change bag
7 chinese sticks
8 chop cup
9 coin case
10 color changing silk
11 color vision
12 coloring bok
13 crazy cube
14 cubio
15 cups and balls
16 cut and restore rope
17 die Box
18 drawer Box
19 dream Queen
20 floating lightbulb
21 linking rings
22 Magic pan
23 Magic tube
24 penetration frame
25 penetro penny
26 proffesors nightmare
27 scotch and soda coins
28 silk in glass
29 soft coins
30 spiked coin
31 steel ball and tube
32 svengali deck
33 Three card monte
34 Three Shell game
35 thump tip
36 traffic light
37 treasure Box
38 water suspension
39 Wonder Blocks
40 zig zag card

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Post by JohnM » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:02 pm

Some really good ones are:
1. Odd Ball by Royal (John B. got me one of these it is really cool)
2. Mummy Mystery (with three "mummies" and a sarcophagus)
3. 3d Sponge Rabbits by Gosh (these look amazing and are so cute)
4. Dice Bomb
5. Zig Zag Cig
6. Occult Board
7. Rope to Silk
8. Prayer Vase by Royal
9. Insurance Plan
10. Buddha Paper

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Post by BobD » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:14 am

1 20th Century Silks
2 Appearing Candle
3 Appearing Cane
4 Bite Coin
5 Blendo
6 B'wave
7 Color Changing CD's
8 Color Monte
9 Crystal Casket
10 Crystal Silk Cylinder
11 Crystal Tube
12 Devils Handkerchief
13 Dove Pan
14 Egg Bag
15 ESP Cards
16 Foo Can
17 Funnel
18 Glorpy
19 Himber Wallet
20 In the News
21 Invisible Deck
22 Invisible Thread
23 Linking Ropes
24 Liquid Suspension
25 Lota
26 Magic Sets
27 Magic Slates
28 Marked Deck
29 Milk Pitcher
30 Money Maker
31 Multiplying Billiard Balls
32 Multiplying Bottles
33 Multiplying Thimbles
34 Nest of Boxes
35 Okito Coin Box
36 Parasol Production
37 Ring on String
38 Silk Cabby
39 Silk to Egg
40 Six Bill Repeat
41 Spike thru Balloon
42 Sponge Balls
43 Stripper Cards
44 Torn and Restord Newspaper
45 Vanishing Candle
46 Vanishing Cane
47 Weenie Tube
48 Zombie

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Post by BobD » Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:07 am

You can also buy tricks here at wholesale prices: http://www.ezmagicrobbins.com/shop/category.aspx/magic/.

Always ask if the items are available and inquire about the shipping cost before paying.

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Post by Jaime C. » Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:48 am

Maybe some of these items may help too:

- Flying Coins
- Magic Box Lock Puzzle
- Pyramid Puzzle
- Nail Puzzle
- T Puzzle
- Chinese Cube Puzzle
- Spring Puzzle
- Snapper Puzzle
- Key Puzzle
- Wonder Block
- Optical/Melt Wallet
- Magic Wallet
- Match Box Penetration
- Coin Squeeze
- Cork Stopper
- Drawer Box
- Hot Paddle
- IMP Bottle-
- Sure Shot
- Rattle Box
- Square Puzzle
- :) :)
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Post by SimonC » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:40 am

the king prediction I was taking about is actually usually done with Queensland is called 'dream queen' there's a bunch on eBay.
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Post by Per-Aage » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:48 am

Great Guys !!!

Thanks for the effort so far :)

For the moment i am trying to find the best webshop solution for me, i sat up to 05.00 last night/morning searching internett :)
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Post by kellebotond » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:32 am

At di fatta magic there is no minimum order, but they have a fixed shipping rate of around 120-150 euros. And your first purchase should be a big one.

At Murphy's you have to order at least 500 dollars a month, every month. Shipping is usually around 130-160 dollars.
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Post by Jaime C. » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:40 am

SimonC wrote:the king prediction I was taking about is actually usually done with Queensland is called 'dream queen' there's a bunch on eBay.
thanks Simon :)
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Post by Per-Aage » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:33 pm

Thanks Botond

is di fatta magic Products of good quality ?
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Post by kellebotond » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:46 pm

Yes, good quality, nice packaging and English instructions. Of course by good quality I do not mean excellent quality like Tenyo, but OK quality like most magic products. Most of them are usual magic items, they carry lot of Tenyo rip-offs as well: Zig-zag zig, Coin nest, Clean cut etc.

http://www.difattamagic.com/index.php?p ... at=CLO-COM

Their advantage is that they are located in Italy, so you do not have to pay any import tax. But they only post with UPS which is quite expensive if you want to order only a few things. They have quantity discounts. You should contact them to get a dealer login to see the prices. You can tell them if you like that I have recommended them for you from the Figaro Magic shop. :)
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Post by SimonC » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:19 pm

I have a copy zigzag cig, it's an exact replica in terms of size colour and pattern but certainly doesn't 'feel' like a tenyo, does the original have a nice weight to it? I'll take a pic of mine later
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Post by JohnM » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:35 pm

I had a replica of Zig Zag Cig for years.

I got it before I even knew what Tenyo was.

When I finally got the Tenyo one you could fell the difference when you slide it opened and closed.

The replica was wobbly and did not line up well. The Tenyo is snug and lines up perfect. Quite a difference in quality.

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Post by David DeTenyo » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:42 am

I applaud your idea Per Aage! Most of the litle tricks have already been mentioned. Perhaps when you buy from Difatta you can also sell the Difatta Squeeze Away Block - Roberto made a nice video of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkTqbxKa2Fc

I bought mine from a local magic shop a year or two ago and it was 50 EURO, so perhaps this is a bit out of the range of tricks you have in mind. Nonetheless there are few shops that sell it (mine had to order it directly from Difatta for me) but it's a good trick for starting magicians :)

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Post by SimonC » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:47 am

JohnM wrote:I had a replica of Zig Zag Cig for years.

I got it before I even knew what Tenyo was.

When I finally got the Tenyo one you could fell the difference when you slide it opened and closed.

The replica was wobbly and did not line up well. The Tenyo is snug and lines up perfect. Quite a difference in quality.
I thought so, this one feels a little light and scratchy. There's just one in eBay ending today for £10 and I can't decide between that and cutting edge (also £10). I know that sometimes the phonies can be just as good as the real thing, my mum bought a fake Louis Vuitton handbag and showed me and I remember saying how crappy the material felt and that it was clearly a low quality fake. Then I had to make a chandelier out of the same handbag (about 120 in all @ £750 a piece) for Selfridges in London as part of their window display. I couldn't believe the real ones were no better, and the fake was a perfect replica! I just found a pic of the chandelier on google, it was a crazy job, there were enough handbags to put the deposit on a house. Scary stuff. (I didn't make it on my own btw!)
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Post by JohnM » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:29 am

SimonC wrote: There's just one in eBay ending today for £10 and I can't decide between that and cutting edge (also £10).

Then I had to make a chandelier out of the same handbag (about 120 in all @ £750 a piece) for Selfridges in London as part of their window display.
I think all of the specialness of Zig Zag Cig has been washed away by all the replicas. When it came out it was super special. Now it is an after thought. I do not think you will like Cutting Edge. More like an optical illusion than a magic trick. Do you have Oh No! I think you and your students will like that.

OMG what a cool project. You should go to Beverly Hills, California and do this for people in their houses.

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Post by SimonC » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:45 am

it was certainly fun to do, there's some crazy sh!t in my portfolio, some of which I hope my students never uncover ;)
I have oh no, it's not one I've used much but I have showed some of my kids, normally as a starter to a lesson on safely using bandsaws (the other one involves a bucket of chicken wings)
I've got an idea of cutting edge, and I know the main secret to it. it does appeal to the more quirky parts of my collection. I agree I think ZZC got a little diluted, it is a wicked trick tho. still unsure, I have 2hrs to decide, it may come down to a coin toss
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Post by David DeTenyo » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:03 am

I don't like Cutting Edge, it's so incredible angle sensitive ... . Zig Zag Cig should have some great routines in Kaufman's book.
However Cutting Edge will become harder to find and the price is good, where Zig Zag Cig will be available in one form or another for years to come.

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Post by SimonC » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:34 am

I just saw the p&p price, £7! I'll give both a miss, ending in just under an hour on eBay.co.uk are

Coin of Dracula £20
Zig zag cig £10
Cutting edge £10
4D surprise £10
Eclipse £15
Impossible pen £15
(£7 p&p on all)

Some bargains there, none BNIP but all with original packages.
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