T-142 Lancelot

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T-142 Lancelot

Postby JohnM » Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:30 am

Name: Lancelot

T-Number: T-142

Inventor: Hiroshi Kondo

Year: 1989



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Re: T-142 Lancelot

Postby Steve S. » Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:55 pm

I would love to rate this and give my reflection on it but I don't have it. Can anyone help solve that problem for me? :cry:
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Re: T-142 Lancelot

Postby Richard Kaufman » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:13 pm

You should read Tenyoism so you can learn that the version sold in the US is not the same trick sold in Japan. We received a weak adaption of their original.
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Re: T-142 Lancelot

Postby Steve S. » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:01 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:You should read Tenyoism so you can learn that the version sold in the US is not the same trick sold in Japan. We received a weak adaption of their original.


I did read the description in Tenyoism and personally like the bill version utilizing the clear plastic envelope better.

As can be seen from the demos by Roberto and Madison, that bill version is terrific!

I don't understand why you call the bill version weak.
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Re: T-142 Lancelot

Postby MadisonPresents » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:05 pm

I really like this one. I think it's deceptive in its simplicity. I like that the props actually aren't mechanical in nature.
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Re: T-142 Lancelot

Postby Richard Kaufman » Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:05 pm

The method IS mechanical: a plastic ledge pushes another piece of plastic.

The method they came up with for the west, where telephone cards were not widely used, is less effective because there are more props. Fewer props = greater simplicity. The more simple and direct a trick is, the more effective it is. You like the method with the bill because it's what you know.

If Tenyo thought the trick would be more effective with a bill, then that's how they would have marketed it in Japan. The Japanese package for the trick has a telephone card printed on it.
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Re: T-142 Lancelot

Postby SimonC » Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:58 am

It's the tiny sword that does it for me :) it's rare to see metal in a Tenyo trick now!
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Re: T-142 Lancelot

Postby David DeTenyo » Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:56 am

Madison's routine certainly elevates the trick, and perhaps a telephone card made it look more 'organic', but it still isn't a favourite of mine. It's clever for sure, and with a right presentation this still is a goodie every Tenyo collector should own :)
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Re: T-142 Lancelot

Postby gazpratley » Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:17 am

i first bought Lancelot in about 1996, however i broke it, so i had to re buy the trick years later, from the dynamite magic shop nl :)
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Re: T-142 Lancelot

Postby Richard Kaufman » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:09 pm

Watching Madison's presentation, you can see why the Tenyo original using the telephone card is better: it would start at 2 minutes in on Madison's video. No need to explain the bill, the plastic envelope, the unprinted business card with the odd hole cut in the middle. None of that exists in Hiroshi Kondo's original version.

In fact, in Kondo's version (because telephone cards were ubiquitous in Japan at the time), you could borrow the telephone card.
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Re: T-142 Lancelot

Postby SimonC » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:14 pm

My dad used to collect phone cards in the 80s/90s. Lots of happy memories of him waking me up at 6am to drive into town and empty the used card bins (he made his own acrylic 'key'.
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