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T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:04 am
by JohnM
Name: Dragon Altar

T-Number: T-149

Inventor: Hiroshi Kondo

Year: 1991



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T-149 Dragon Altar on PLANET TENYO

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:47 am
by Steve S.
I really like this one. For me, it's another one of those cool plastic props that made me love Tenyo so much.

With a bit of practice and some tweaking the way you handle it, it works well and consistently. Using the correct coin is also important.

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:20 am
by SimonC
I like this trick, it's one I've used a lot at school. I'll show the class then challenge someone to either do it themself or tell me how I did it.
Clever thinking, bit of a knack to it so I'm never 100% confident performing it so a point lost for that!

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:30 pm
by Richard Kaufman
Yet another trick with a noise issue.

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:48 pm
by Steve S.
Richard Kaufman wrote:Yet another trick with a noise issue.
Can't that be explained as hearing the magic happen? I never had a problem with that noise.

It's not a problem in the Paul Daniels version either. It doesn't give anything away.

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:47 am
by VictorS
Repost:

This is interesting....Paul Daniels performed Dragon Altar for stage version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In1eVMBLUpE

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:37 am
by David DeTenyo
VictorS wrote:Repost:

This is interesting....Paul Daniels performed Dragon Altar for stage version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In1eVMBLUpE
Interesting indeed - a year after Tenyo released Dragon Altar, Paul Daniels performed this larger version in his show. Paul was known to buy all sorts of little gimmicky stuff, he performed Parabox too in one of his tv shows. I think he stumbled across Dragon Altar and decided to make a larger version of it. Sad we can't ask him anymore ... .

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:27 am
by Steve S.
Thanks for sharing that video Victor! Very cool!

It's impressive how Paul Daniels managed to get those props together. I assume he had most if not all of the props specially made for the effect.

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:25 pm
by VictorS
Welcome Steve...yes indeed it looks cool ;)

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:23 pm
by Richard Kaufman
How many Tenyo tricks can you get away with doing by saying, "Do you hear that click [you can substitute thud, or bang, etc.], that's when the magic happens."

That's a really bad way to perform magic. Laymen are not stupid.

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:28 pm
by David DeTenyo
I didn't write an opinion yet but this afternoon I had some time to play with Dragon Altar. I remember it being very difficult to get it to work 100% of the time.

I tried about 30 times, following the instructions, but I only succeeded about 1/3 of the time in doing what is supposed to happen. More practice is necessary I guess.

I also tried the extra effect described in Tenyoism (the optical illusion looks VERY convincing by the way, even up close) but had a hard time to 'drop' the coin in the box ... I didn't succeed once to be honest, and yes Richard, I did exactly what you wrote ;)

Ah well, this is a very clever trick, but it needs some serious practice to get the 'feeling' of it, as Richard also wrote in Tenyoism by the way.

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:39 pm
by gazpratley
Great trick,i can do this prob 95 percent of the time lol,it does have a slight knack. this trick was readilly available a few years ago from Hitomi in japanese packaging of course.

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:31 pm
by Steve S.
Richard Kaufman wrote:How many Tenyo tricks can you get away with doing by saying, "Do you hear that click [you can substitute thud, or bang, etc.], that's when the magic happens."

That's a really bad way to perform magic. Laymen are not stupid.
No one said that you have to make a reference to a noise. That's up to the performer. I prefer to make a comment rather than bang on the table or make some other obnoxious noise.

All laymen are different. Some are more assuming than others. While some may be suspicious about a sound they hear, others just want to be entertained and are not so critical. They go with the flow so to speak.

I think it's safe to say that Dragon Altar is a good clever trick.

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:52 am
by David DeTenyo
About the noise ... if a ball passes thru a coin and lid, isn't it supposed to make a noise? :D

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:55 am
by Steve S.
David DeTenyo wrote:About the noise ... if a ball passes thru a coin and lid, isn't it supposed to make a noise? :D
Good point David! ;)

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:38 pm
by Rob Rand
There is now a wooden version available of Tenyo’s Dragon Altar for only 35 euro.
At Dynamitemagic.nl

It’s called “Impossi-Ball”:
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https://www.dynamitemagic.nl/en/product ... ball-5854/

I’m curious if it works smoother than the original one.
The lid is different from the original one.


(Dynamitemagic has more wooden effects for 35 euro, a remake of Angelo Carbone’s “Squeeze-Thru” called Thru the hole:
https://www.dynamitemagic.nl/en/product ... -dms-5849/
and of that ring through rod effect of which I forgot the name called Ring on wand:
(Edit: I meant Kenard Mystery Box)
https://www.dynamitemagic.nl/en/product ... -dms-5850/)

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:59 pm
by KirkW
Dragon Altar has always been one of my favorite Tenyo pieces. This wooden version looks really nice and, I like the larger size.

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:35 pm
by John B.
These look really nice, especially for the price. Did you order any of these Rob?

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:06 am
by Olaf S
Dragon Altar & Squeeze-Thru in wood for only 35 euro looks tempting

Is this company a European copy company or an Asian copy company ?

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:16 am
by PeterW
Thanks Rob for the information. I’ve ordered Impossi-Ball as a Birthday present to myself. I’ll let you know my thoughts when the effect arrives!

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:04 am
by Rob Rand
Well, after some hesitation I also ordered the Impossi-Ball…

It’s a bargain of course!

I think these wooden items are made in Europe…

I saw that the Squeeze Thru or Thru the hole is already sold out..,

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:57 am
by PeterW
Wow that was fast looks like Impossi-Ball is now sold out!

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:16 pm
by KirkW
I thought these exclusive items would sell out fast. I’m glad I purchased Impossi-ball in time. 😁
I hope the quality is good.

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:40 pm
by CollinW
Wow, Sold out!
Well.....time to warm up those 3D printers. :lol:

Re: T-149 Dragon Altar

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:05 am
by KirkW
CollinW wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:40 pm
Wow, Sold out!
Well.....time to warm up those 3D printers. :lol:
:lol: