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5221??

Postby SimonC » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:54 am

Anyone got this trick?
It looks very powerful, I'm just looking for some reviews.
My only guess so far is that when the spectator cuts and holds the packet, the performer has four possible 'outs'
(top and bottom of tabled half, top and bottom of held half) after they've named their card you decide whether they simply look at the bottom card in their hand, perform a cross cut force etc.....
So that would mean there can only be four possible cards they could 'think of'. So that makes it back to the drawing board!
It LOOKs great and it's an uncut performance, I just want some more info if I'm going to go for it...
take a look...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG4iKZWMHlw
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Re: 5221??

Postby Richard W » Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:46 am

This looks really great. Don't have it but says it comes with gimmicks, so more than one. They have a post on TMC about it.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=611097&start=0
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Re: 5221??

Postby SimonC » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:35 am

Thanks Richard, definitely clocked one thing on the video that gives a little bit of the method away. My concern with the live performance is that if the spectator cuts to somewhere significantly different to the card they chose (for example, their card is bang in the middle of the spread and they cut somewhere near the top or bottom) then they may smell something fishy. I wonder if you could do a few false cuts/shuffles before they cut?
still intrigued, it certainly looks wicked.
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Re: 5221??

Postby BluBob » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:38 am

SimonC wrote:Anyone got this trick?
It looks very powerful, I'm just looking for some reviews.
My only guess so far is that when the spectator cuts and holds the packet, the performer has four possible 'outs'
(top and bottom of tabled half, top and bottom of held half) after they've named their card you decide whether they simply look at the bottom card in their hand, perform a cross cut force etc.....
So that would mean there can only be four possible cards they could 'think of'. So that makes it back to the drawing board!
It LOOKs great and it's an uncut performance, I just want some more info if I'm going to go for it...
take a look...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG4iKZWMHlw

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I DON'T HAVE THIS! (I watched the video a few times)

Actually, I believe it to be 6 "outs" ...
If you watch the video VERY very, carefully, you will see why I say this.
Clever trick ... thanks for calling my attention to it.
and now, on with the show ...
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Re: 5221??

Postby SimonC » Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:58 am

I know what you're referring to Bob, I caught that too ;) gotta think on this one a bit more...
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Re: 5221??

Postby SimonC » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:14 am

Ooh! How's this... you have 3 B******R C****S one towards the top, one towards the middle one towards the bottom. You then know where to cut to after they name their thought of card. (Each c***p would offer two outs per cut)
How you get the spectator to cut to their card I'm not sure yet but in the video he does say 'it wasn't a high card was it? Then as the spectator answers he says 'wait actually don't tell me' (a nice little subtlety whatever he's using it for!)
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Re: 5221??

Postby BluBob » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:20 pm

Of the 6 outs only two are "high" cards.
The cut is made at the long ends. (with a "crab hand" as an example)
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Re: 5221??

Postby VictorS » Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:50 pm

SimonC wrote:Ooh! How's this... you have 3 B******R C****S one towards the top, one towards the middle one towards the bottom. You then know where to cut to after they name their thought of card. (Each c***p would offer two outs per cut)
How you get the spectator to cut to their card I'm not sure yet but in the video he does say 'it wasn't a high card was it? Then as the spectator answers he says 'wait actually don't tell me' (a nice little subtlety whatever he's using it for!)


I don`t have it but I think you are very close Simon ;)
6 outs sounds like a Koran deck.
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Re: 5221??

Postby Randy » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:13 pm

Just looks like a marked Koran deck to me.

The 2 cards the spectator cut to are easy. The hard part is how to handle the 4 cards that are 2 or 3 cards away from the cut. I don't have this or know anything about it but if I were thinking of buying this I would be interested on purchaser's thoughts about how natural these outs look to the spectator.
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